What does Holden want to talk to Carl Luce about in "The Catcher in the Rye"?Carl calls it "a typical Holden Caulfield conversation."

In the conversation with Luce, Holden reveals much sexual confusion.

Here's the scene's major points:

• Luce is an older, college student who goes to Columbia; he's similar to Stradlater from earlier chapters; Holden is secretly jealous of these men


• Luce used to talk about famous "flits" (homosexuals)


• Holden suspects that Luce was gay


• Luce is currently dating an older, Asian woman


• Luce says he prefers the Eastern view of sex over the Western one: the former values a spiritual and physical connection, while the latter stresses the physical too much.


• Luce tells Holden to go see a psychoanalyst; Luce himself gives him psychoanalytic advice.


• Holden has previously rejected psychoanalysis: "my lousy childhood" and "that David Copperfield crap"


• Holden is drunk and feeling sexy.


• Holden is "I'm so lonely I could die," which echoes Huck Finn's "I'm so lonesome I could die"


• Luce leaves Holden because the conversation is beneath him: Holden looks physically old, but he is still mentally immature.